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06/15/2008 1:19 PM  
Happy Father's Day!  No I am not lost! I am just greeting and recognizing the people who in most cases here are  behind the scenes. The people that toiled and worked hard to raise you all and send you to nursing/medical school or set you up for your careers whatver it might be. Please let them know that they can log in here and can ask questions or share experiences from father to father or from one friend to another.  Puede silang mag tanong at makipag ibigan dito sa WAITING ROOM. Just think about this WAITING ROOM like the old pre departure area at the airport where a lot of families are sending off their loved ones to work abroad... We all ask questions like:

" Oh, saan kayo sa States pupunta?? Kumusta kaya and buhay doon?? Marami ba kayong kaibigan o kamag anak?? Itong anak ko papunta sa Dallas!! Ano?  taga Dallas kayo?? Ay salamat may nakilla akong taga Dallas!! Ay, anak taga Dallas sila!! O sige maka matulungan ninyo ang nurse namin.. maraming Salamat,ha!!"
Get the picture???

While waiting for your departure, we can also talk about things that are not exactly nurse related but very relevant as far as your parents and love ones are concerned like, how is the peace and order situation in a particular city in the U.S., marami bang Pinoy sa L.A., malamig ba sa Texas?? Magkano ba mag apartment diyan?? Magkano ang bahay?? Ano kaya ang magandand kotse?? Magkano??

  Getting a better picture!!

Now who am I ??? Sino ako??  Just  a pinoy immigrant of 25 years and have raised five kids in here in the U.S. and one of them is very invoved in the creation and success of this  site. I hope I can relate and share my experiences with the parents, friends and families of those who have loved ones in the U.S. are planning, hoping or waiting to go to the U.S.!!

See ya'll soon and keep posting! 
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06/15/2008 1:23 PM  
Gosh!! Lot's of typo!! Sorry could not find the EDIT button or is there any?? LOL! Must be getting old! Hey it's Fathers' Day give me a little break!! Randy, Jenny and Ramon CONGRATS and what a great site..
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06/16/2008 11:55 AM  
Good morning sir, I actually have a quick question.. ang Tita ko sa California and she tells me that I should consider a larger city like L.A. (where she's at) however, as a provenciana, its intimidating to think of living in a city so big... based on your experience, would you suggest a bigger city or a smaller city to migrate to? (well, considering retrogression is still in effect, I know its a while until my dream is realized, but its nice to dream..
My concern- are Filipino nurses generally accepted across the US?


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06/16/2008 3:06 PM  
Hi there, I can understand your concern re: how any foreign trained nurse is viewed here in the U.S. I think you will find a lot of support generally from your peers not only here in the US, but anywhere you are considering to migrate. That said, there are some differences in practice, personalities and professional attitudes when you work with people of different cultures and background. Filipinos are known worldwide for their nurturing and friendly attitude-- (I personally think the culture of the Philippines is what makes Filipinos great at nursing, to name one of many great professions). Carry a very positive attitude, be confident in your professional knowledge and skills and always be open to learn from others and you will do fine whether you decide to work in a smaller town or a large city. Also, this website was founded with nurses like you in mind... - we will continue to develop programs, write articles, find support and offer informaton that will EMPOWER you to be the best nurse whether you are in the Philippines or anywhere else in the world. Thanks for posting!
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06/17/2008 12:08 AM  
Posted By proud2bnursing on 06/16/2008 11:55 AM
Good morning sir, I actually have a quick question.. ang Tita ko sa California and she tells me that I should consider a larger city like L.A. (where she's at) however, as a provenciana, its intimidating to think of living in a city so big... based on your experience, would you suggest a bigger city or a smaller city to migrate to? (well, considering retrogression is still in effect, I know its a while until my dream is realized, but its nice to dream..
My concern- are Filipino nurses generally accepted across the US?




proud2nursing,

Thanks for your post! Quick answer to your question is it all depends on your personal preference. L.A. is a fun city for vacation.. my opinion, para sa akin. You probably will get paid more in L.A. compare to Dallas (just an example). However, the cost of living in L.A. is a lot higher than Dallas ( again just a point of reference/example). Also, another thing to consider is California has a State Income Tax and other states don't have.Now, since we are "dreaming", it is a lot easier and more affordable to buy a house in Dallas than in L.A. Public transportation is good in L.A. and it Dallas it is almost a must to have your own car.It is easier to drive in Dallas than in L.A.
I can go on and on but I will see if somebody could chime in and share their thoughts..

Are Filipino nurses accepted in the U.S. ??? Yes, very much so!!


Regards to you and hope I have answered your questions!

Rey
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06/17/2008 10:57 AM  
Very good point about the cost of living comparison from city to city.  Yes, you may hear about salaries in the upward of $35-plus; however, the cost of living may be higher.  Ultimately, no matter where you are, you just have to be smart about finances.. I know a lot of people working as nurses making lots of $$$, but live paycheck to paycheck because of financial management (or lack of) 
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06/27/2008 11:09 AM  
Wow. Could you give some advice as to how much money will it take to "settle" in the States? I have talked to a lot of nurses who are in various stages of their immigration process-- although of course, everything is on hold because of retrogression. Frankly, I think retrogression is divine intervention (at least for me) - its giving me time to get the rotation/clinical practice I need to be a stronger nurse. But, in planning for the future, what should I..we plan for? Sir ReySC, what do you wish you know then that you have learned?? Where did you know where to live? I'm still apprehensive about fitting in.. are there strong Filipino communities all over the US?
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06/27/2008 11:12 AM  

Sorry, but I would also like to find out how difficult is it to find jobs outside of nursing?? I hope to be married in December.. he is working now in Manila in a sales capacity.. how do you find jobs for spouses?  Sorry for so many questions, but it is exciting and scary at the same time.

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06/27/2008 11:52 AM  


Proud2nursing wrote..

" Sir ReySC, what do you wish you know then that you have learned?? Where did you know where to live? I'm still apprehensive about fitting in.. are there strong Filipino communities all over the US?


My reply..

Sir ReySC, what do you wish you know then that you have learned??

In my case, I imagined I will have to work very hard and very long hours (remember, I am not a nurse. Nurses have it a little easier but not much) but imagining is one thing actually doing it is a lot different. I imoved here with five kids!! That was really rough anf I can write a whole book about that. Maybe, I just have myself established first before I brought the kids here?? I really don't have an answer to that.


You asked...

Where did you know where to live? I'm still apprehensive about fitting in.. are there strong Filipino communities all over the US?

It so happens that my in-laws are in Dallas that's how I ended up here.... There are a lot cf Filipino communities all over the U.S. but don't discount the support of your future employer and co-workers.. Now, don't forget this SITE and thids FORUM .. i AM SURE WE ALL CAN HOLD YOUR HAND and provide assistance thru networking when you get here!!

Good Luck and keep posting! Pretty soon you will have you online family here on this Forum/Siite..

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06/27/2008 12:26 PM  
Posted By proud2bnursing on 06/27/2008 11:12 AM

Sorry, but I would also like to find out how difficult is it to find jobs outside of nursing?? I hope to be married in December.. he is working now in Manila in a sales capacity.. how do you find jobs for spouses?  Sorry for so many questions, but it is exciting and scary at the same time.



Finding jobs for the spouses are easy (IMHO) as long as they are not picky and are willing to work hard. One thing I know in this country is that hard work, good work ethics, reliability are recognized and rewarded. It is not whom you know. If I may use myself as an example  I was a Regional Manager w/ a regional office and four district offices under me when I left our country.. many moons ago.. My first job here was bussing tables ( Yes! buss boy!! yong taga linis ng lamesa sa restaurant) I rose up the ranks pretty quick and now I am a Country Club Manager running a 10million/ yr revenue and over 400 acres of property to include two golf courses and a huge club house w/ five star ammenities..I still work like a "kalabaw" got to keep going .ya' know. I am sure you get the message. One thing I did not have then is a supportive site like NURSESTOGETHER. Remember nurses are the common denominator here but we can extend support  to their familes too!!

hope I have answered your questions and keep posting! BTW, where in the Phillipines are you??

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07/02/2008 1:10 AM  
Hey everyone :) good day to all :) I hope, it's ok to post this here but I just really wanna ask if there are agencies you might know that are recruiting nurses to work abroad, I would really like to start working already so I hope you could help. I actually graduated last year, 2007 and after passing the board, I immediately worked as a volunteer(post-graduate trainee) in a tertiary hospital for 6 months. Now that I finished that 6 months of work as a volunteer, I don't really know where to go, really need your suggestions guys... Thanks a lot in advance and God Bless :)

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07/02/2008 12:15 PM  
Posted By JJ on 07/02/2008 1:10 AM
Hey everyone :) good day to all :) I hope, it's ok to post this here but I just really wanna ask if there are agencies you might know that are recruiting nurses to work abroad, I would really like to start working already so I hope you could help. I actually graduated last year, 2007 and after passing the board, I immediately worked as a volunteer(post-graduate trainee) in a tertiary hospital for 6 months. Now that I finished that 6 months of work as a volunteer, I don't really know where to go, really need your suggestions guys... Thanks a lot in advance and God Bless :)

JJ


Hi JJ !! Welcome to the forum! I will give you my humble opinion as a non nurse but familiar w/ the system. I am sure somebody, hopefully Randy or Jenny will chime in and give their views.

 On your question...

"I just really wanna ask if there are agencies you might know that are recruiting nurses to work abroad, I would really like to start working already so I hope you could help. "

ANSWER;

Are you referring to Recruiting/Staffing agencies here in the U.S. ?? The answer is yes!! This is where I want  the experts need to chime in. I will reserve the recommendation suggestions to them.

On your quetion..

" I immediately worked as a volunteer(post-graduate trainee) in a tertiary hospital for 6 months. Now that I finished that 6 months of work as a volunteer, I don't really know where to go, really need your suggestions guys... Thanks a lot in advance and God Bless :) "


ANSWER;


 iI recommend that you keep workingbecause that expereince ( working in a tertiary hospital will help you land a job here faster. You also need to do yopur other requirements NCLEX etc..ect..)


 Hang around here and you will get great  advices/guidance and good networking connections..

Good Luck and see you around. Let us see how soon our experts can chime in!!

Rey
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07/02/2008 12:55 PM  

Hi JJ, well as a former recruiter, I would like to give you some sound advice and motivation.  First, I would definitely encourage you to get more experience (hopefully, one that will get pay you for your time and services)  We are aware that it can be difficult to find a nursing job in some parts of the Philippines.  Your volunteer work currently at 6 months will count towards your clinical experience... you are on your way. 

If working abroad is your ultimate goal, you should strive to get a minimum of 1 year, but ultimately 2 years of clinical experience under your belt.  (More experience is better)

As you already know retrogression is still in effect and no visas are available for nurses trained overseas to work here in the US.  Nurses are always in high demand in countries like Australia, UK, Saudi Arabia, UAE (United Arab Emirates) and Canada.  We have a list of recruiting firms listed under the RESOURCE and I would urge you to reach out and listen to some advice from others in this forum about requirements and recommendations of agencies. :)  I can also give you a list of my recommended agencies from experience.. but it is truly too pre-mature to go forward with contacting any agencies at this time.  

For now, I would recommend 2 things: first, focus on becoming a stronger clinical nurse.  Time is on your side as time will give you the experience it takes to do everything well.  Secondly, stay informed and active - this forum can bring you a wealth of insight and knowledge from nurses not only in the Philippines, but also around the world.  Connect with a few nurses on NurseTogether-- you can learn a lot from each other and they can offer sound advice and MENTORSHIP. 

Glad to welcome you here!

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07/02/2008 11:47 PM  
Hello there Ms. Jenny and Mr. Rey :) Hope you are having a great day :)
Well, thank you for that very informative reply :) It surely helped me decide on what I'm going to do first. I agree that working in a clinical setting will help definitely help me to become a more competitive and better nurse. It's just that it sounds overwhelming when I hear stories of my classmates back in college who are now working in different countries. I am hoping that I would land a job soon so that I can reach that goal.
I have another question though and I hope you can help me on this again :)
Is it true that when you pass NCLEX, it will expire in 2 years once you don't land a job in the US?
Please do enlighten me on this because I am also planning apply for my NCLEX already...
Thank you again and God Bless! :)

JJ
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07/03/2008 10:43 AM  
About NCLEX- once you pass NCLEX, it does not expire.  However, the state license does expire.   For example,  I will use California to illustrate: 

You want to take the NCLEX and choose California.
You apply for license and in turn, apply to take the exam.
You do the necessary paperwork
Study for the exam
Pass the NCLEX (with no problem of course!)
Let's say retrogression is still in effect and 2 years have gone by..
Well, you would have to renew your license in CA (http://www.rn.ca.gov/licensees/lic-renewal.shtml

I simplified for the sake of this example.  I am not suggesting to choose CA for the NCLEX.  (just had to add this disclaimer here. )
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08/18/2008 10:45 PM  
Currently, the United States is short an estimated 150,000 nurses. Yet over the next decade, more than 650,000 new jobs in nursing will be created. At the same time, an estimated 450,000 nurses will have retired. By 2020, the nurse shortage is expected to increase to 800,000.
 
The trend in Nursing shortage in the US has reach a crisis level...but not in millions.
 
Please check your stats.
 
I run an employment agency here and I still work as per diem RN in ER and home care just to get my hands current on the trend because I'm training new RN's myself so I know what the issues are. Plus I am working alongside an immigration lawyer.
 
Anyone can try applying directly to an employer and if they get hired then they've got to be very lucky.
 
There is a retrogression in effect, they are planning to lift the retrogression this year and will hopefully issue 60K visas in the next 3 years.
 
20 K visas/year in all disciplines of other professions that includes children and spouses (not only RN's)...that's a lot of numbers to compete with. I hope they'll keep those 20K for RN's only.
 
Only then the Employers will be able to sponsor. This is a costly proposition for them so they will hand picked experienced RN''s .
 
So if somebody is sitting on their diploma, PRC license, CGFNS certficate or even NCLEX, sad to let them know that does not guarantee a job.
 
They have to find a way to acquire experience or advance training, educational advancement, expertise in specialty department. IV, EKG interpretation, wound care expertise. Those are some of the advancement that will boost the chances of becoming competitive in the market. 
 
New RN's from foreign country have to find a way to be a hot to acquire talent these days.
 
Here's my advice to newly graduates or new RN's but have not experience work yet.
 
I'm not sure how hard to get in or if there is a cost now to volunteer in the hospital...I've heard that there's a cost (ridiculous!), but somebody's learned to take advantage of the need...that's business and that's just how life is. Can't argue with that. You'll probably do the same if given the opportunity, so stop complaining.
 
Volunteer with NBI forensic to tag along with the medical examiner is another way to earn experience I'm sure they'll love their company.
 
Join as a volunteer in a Medical Mission groups when they are in the Philippines especially when there's relief efforts in disaster area ( be active!), that will earn very good recommendation.
 
Create a foundation with fellow RN's and raise some funds from sponsors (business people that wants to earn media exposure) go to depress areas and offer Nursing services whatever it may be...it's a community service that will earn a rich reward someday.
 
If they don't earn these skills now and the next wave comes in (and it's coming very soon) I can almost guarantee that they will be left out.
 
Whatever means they can to earn something related to Nursing advancement they must do it now.
 
Japan is opening it's door as well...they just had a contract with Indonesia because of their own shortage issues. 
 
Who knows Phils. might get into their contract as well, we have relations with them in advance skills and entertainment industry in the past.
 
I'm in possesion of resume's from RN's in the Philippines whose relatives are here in the US and they thought that they can just walk in anytime and get hired since they are RN's/BSN and NCLEX passers...we'll they are outright WRONG! 
 
Not only that nobody can/want to sponsor them (because nobody can...just yet)...they don't meet the experience criteria.
 
Hospitals don't even want to hold their resume.
 
I just walk into one of the biggest Nurse Specturm job fair in NY 2 weeks ago with over 40 employers and I pretended to be applying for a job and the first thing they ask me was;
What is my experience? When I said none...they recommend that I look for something that offers residency program and wish me good luck.
 
But when I went to see few HR's and I told them I have 20 years experience in the Emergency Department in NY...they wanted to grabbed me by my neck.
 
I don't mean to disappoint people but I'm leading everyone towards reality.
 
Now work your butt to earn that experience...whatever it takes!
 
I know that it's tough to find a job these days.
 
Back in the 80's it was the same. I came from Davao City and land a job at Metropolitan Hospital in Masangkay.
 
Lost that job a year later and volunteered at Veterans Memorial in Quezon City while doing private duty Nursing at the same time to afford my board and lodging, until I finally got hired and stayed in Psych and Uro/Surg for 2 years.
 
There are many ways to get into the hospital as a Nurse...but it takes a lot of sacrifice and time invested.
 
Also learn the linggo of RN's here by joining Nursing forums (you'll find me there too), and you'll gather a lot of informations about the current trends here.
 
I've been working in the ER since I got here in '94 and now currently running my own business with partners. PINK Diamond Staffing
 
I have been actively collaborating with recruiters and most of them are looking for experience RN's here in the US. 
 
They don't even want to hire those American RN's that have not work in the past 7-10 years, unless they enroll in a refresher course. The newly graduates here has to go through a residency program (sort of like an OJT on probation for 6-9 months) before they can become a fulltime hired staff.
 
I like the excitement, but inaccurate information can only disappoint the rest of the new RN's in these group.
 
Passing the NCLEX is not the difficult part...trying to sell yourself and convince the employer that you are worth their time and money is the hardest thing to accomplish.
 
With that said, experienced documented on paper is the best ticket to get the employers attention and then they will let you into the training/orientation where you have the chance to prove your skill as a Nurse.
 
Stay from abusing any drugs because drug screening here is becoming a norm and they are taking it seriously (there are too many RN's who have access to drugs and are addicted  to self consumption), and their screening here is very accurate. No matter how much experience you have or you may be a top notch on your class...it don't matter...with stained records---they won't let you in.
 
Oh by the way---they are not big on titles here such as a valedictorian or top notch on the licensure---they just don't care about it.
 
Boils down to experience as the best ticket.
 
I hope you'll share this to our colleagues and when you guys are ready let me know by sending your resume to this e-mail.

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08/21/2008 1:37 PM  
Posted By Leojin on 08/18/2008 10:45 PM
Currently, the United States is short an estimated 150,000 nurses. Yet over the next decade, more than 650,000 new jobs in nursing will be created. At the same time, an estimated 450,000 nurses will have retired. By 2020, the nurse shortage is expected to increase to 800,000.
 
The trend in Nursing shortage in the US has reach a crisis level...but not in millions.
 
Please check your stats.
 

We did check additional stats regarding the U.S. nursing shortage and would like to add the following:

"The nationwide nursing shortage is reaching alarming scope with approximately one million unfilled nursing positions projected by 2020(1). According to the American Association of Colleges of Nursing (AACN), nursing schools must increase the number of graduates by 90 percent to combat the nursing shortage. Yet, in 2005, BSN programs denied more than 41,000 applicants due to lack of capacity and lack of faculty. "  

Suffice to say that there will always be a variance in numbers being quoted in regards to the nursing shortage depending on who did the study and when; what is undisputable is that there is a shortage here in the U.S.  
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08/31/2009 11:57 PM  
and here i am, one of the hopeful nurses in the Philippines.

just a quick background, I am a registered nurse batch 2008 and an NCLEX passer of California who will be taking the IELTS exam this september, yet, i haven't found any employer. I have no post grad experiences but I will be having them after the exam and while waiting for a visa screening result thereafter, too.

can u pls advise which classification or type of visa fits for me?
and pls if there's any of u who can refer me, pls help...


thanks.
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09/01/2009 1:17 AM  
i have a question. are all the recruitment agencies listed in this site legal?
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09/01/2009 9:48 AM  
We do not qualify except from the fact that they operate in the international markets and are still operating. I can tell you from personal knowledge and experience, O'Grady Peyton and HCCA International are the top two.
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